Merle coat

We are ready to get another dog, and considering a merle golden doodle litter.  I've seen some posts about how these coats change as the dog matures.  Does anyone have a red merle that they can show puppy and adult pictures of?

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  • I'm curious how you get a merle goldendoodle? I don't think golden retrievers or poodles come in merle. I'm interested to hear what other people have to say. 

    • There are merle Poodles although it's not a recognized coloring (disqualified from competition) and the genetics behind it are questionable. 

    • Thanks for the info, Karen. Certainly makes me rethink this.
  • Most Poodle experts believe that merle is not a naturally occurring color in Poodles and that someone  somewhere bred another breed that does carry merle into certain Poodle lines to create it. Because there are so many genetic health issues liked to the merle genes, it's frowned upon in Poodle circles. "Different" is a good thing when you're buying furniture or clothing, not so good in dogs. 

    http://www.poodleforum.com/5-poodle-talk/123033-merle-2.html


    https://www.facebook.com/Merle-is-NOT-a-naturally-occurring-color-i...

    • Very interesting reading. I would be interested to see pictures of the red merle goldendoodles. With all of Ava's health problems I'm not sure I would pick a dog that might potentially have extra problems, but I would like to see them.

  • I agree.  I think an Aussiedoodle is your best choice if you want this special coloring.

  • Beware of anyone selling a 'double merle' - dog where both parents are / carry Merle. In Australian Shepherds these dogs are often deaf, or blind and deaf, and have a host of other health problems.
    • Not just in Australian Shepherds; in most breeds that carry merle. This is the reason that merle Great Danes are disqualified from competing in conformation. Not because someone arbitrarily decided that they didn't like the coloring, lol, but because of the health problems connected with it, and because one goal of responsible breeding is supposed to be improving the health of the breed. This is the same reason white German Shepherds are disqualified from competition. 

  • Hi. Our sweet Willy is almost 9 years old and is a beautiful silver blue Merle. He has only silver and black markings. His coloring has stayed true and has not changed. He has had none of the merle health problems. Although his Merle coloring comes from a toy poodle, he is a large medium. He has been an extremely healthy dog other than hip dysplacia which may have been the result of the size of dogs bred.. He was a doodle to doodle breeding, but I think the blue merle toy was not far back in the breeding. I'm sure there were a lot of problems in this coloring or you would see many more. At a romp of about 350 doodles many years ago, Willy was the only Merle. I don't think the breeder did a repeat breeding.
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