Hello! 

 

My boy Blue is 4 months old and weighs 20lbs- he's an F1B English Cream Golden Doodle. 

 

I was curious if anyone else here had a golden doodle start out with a coat similar to this. It's very wirey and just recently has started to curl around his neck and along his back. My understanding was F1B's are to be the most curly since they are a cross between a poodle and a golden doodle but he doesnt have that normal doodle look with a fairly stratight and shorter coat. This little man is shedding a TON as well which I assume is the puppy coat coming off?

Do you think he will curl up and slow down on the shedding? Is it possible he has an imporoper coat gene? Also, any predictions on size?

 

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  • Unfortunately, there are no guarantees with mixed breed dogs, of any generation. It is a genetic roulette wheel.  Yes, an F1B is three-quarters Poodle, but there are still genes from the Golden Retriever there, and there are many many F1Bs who shed like crazy. There are even curly coated F1Bs who shed like crazy.  The only way to be sure of getting a non-shedding dog is to get a purebred, or at least a mix in which none of the breeds involved is a shedding breed. As long as there is any amount of Golden Retriever (or any other shedding breed) in the mix, you have the possibility of shedding.

    Four months is way too young for him to be losing his puppy coat. And true non-shedding breeds like Poodles never lose their puppy coats anyway. The coat does change gradually, becoming thicker, coarser and more wooly, but it never falls out. And the curls are already there. This is what a non-shedding coat looks like in a 3 month old Poodle puppy:
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     It is certainly possible that your pup has one copy of the I/C gene from his Golden grandparent. But the I/C gene is mostly about furnishings, and your pup has plenty of those. 
    In any case, it's a pretty sure bet that your pup is always going to be a shedder. I can tell by the cotton-y wispiness of his coat. It's a lot like my labradoodle's coat, and he shed like crazy. 
    As far as guessing his adult weight, I'd say 50-55 lbs. 
    He's very cute. 

    • Really appreciate your reply! I figured he'd stay a shedder but was also hoping there was some chance he might grow out of it. 

      • Super important to understand what Karen said.  
        Furnished dogs can shed.
        Curly dogs can shed.  

        As far as golden retriever percentage.  If 75% poodle meant it would have a poodle coat, what would that mean for any golden retriever aspects?  What would be the point of a goldendoodle if it was mostly poodle in all the ways?
        Another way to look at it is this...maybe the 25% golden retriever is mostly in the coat and the poodle is mostly in the personality.  It is never that "clean" where the poodle ONLY contributes to nonshedding and brains and the rest of the poodle genetics vanish.  Or that the golden retriever ONLY contributes to personality and the coat genes vanish.  It's always a random mix.  Just like kids.  Have you ever met someone whose 6 kids looked EXACTLY like an equal combo of two very different looking parents?  All the same hair?  All the same height?  All the same personality?  Basically like sextuplets that were born at different times?  No.  Because genes distribute differently in each child.  Same with a mixed breed.

  • Two members' F1B goldendoodles that shed like crazy. As you can see, both were very curly. Curliness doesn't guarantee non-shedding. 

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    https://doodlekisses.com/photo/quincy-grooming

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    • Interesting and good to know. I definitely thought curls meant no shedding. 

       

      Have you ever seen a scenario where shedding gets better with age?

      • No.  There are puppies who don't shed until they get older, but when they are already shedding this young, it doesn't stop. Sometimes they shed more heavily when their coats are transitioning, usually about 10 months old, and then it lessens, but I don;t believe that is the case here. He's simply too young. 

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