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  • I don't understand what that means. Short legs compared to the other pups in a litter? Legs that are shorter than they should be proportionately? Any dog's legs should be in proportion to his body. Or are we talking about overall height here? 

  • Are you looking for a small dog? Is that why the subject of short legs came up? A breeder can give you a pretty good estimate of what size of the pups of her litter will be.

  • You are referring to over-all build, correct? You are looking for a more poodle build than a stocky build?  I would think an experienced breeder would be able to recognize basic structure and help you select what you are looking for.

  • By 7-8 weeks, the overall conformation of a dog is pretty obvious--if the length of the back is equal to the length of the legs--making a square shape--then the dog will probably have good proportions. 

    • And that happens to be the breed standard for Poodles, BTW. All three sizes. 

    • An example...3367544007?profile=original

  • This looks more like "the length of the back is equal to the length of the legs" than the above photo.  I was confused!

  • It looks to me like the difference between a labby or retriever build (Ginny's photo) and a poodle build (Karen's).  My ALD has more of the retriever build/bone.

  • Given the genetics of the parents you described in another thread, I would expect a more poodle-like body where the length of the legs will be close to the length on the back. 

    Some retriever bodies do come to rise sometimes in backcross litters, though. For example, my boy, who is an F2b is basically a poodle with a blocky lab head. He has a brother who is 20 lbs heavier, but the same height at 28". He definitely has more retriever tendencies than Orwell even though they came from the same litter.

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