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Hi DK friends!

DK started an Instagram account just over a week ago and I'm trying to intersperse bits of education between photos. So far we've shared info on:

-- finding a rescue
-- choosing a responsible breeder
-- why doodles are not "hypoallergenic"

Now we can break each of these down into smaller bits of info and CONTINUE to educate on specifics, but wondering what you think are top priority OTHER topics worth doing education on via social media?  Some ideas I have are on poodle facts/history and retriever facts/hx for the sake of education on the parent breeds...but what else?

What should other doodle owners and potential doodle owners know?  What do you want to shout from the mountain tops?

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Thank you, Rosalyn. We adore him so much. It’s just shocking to us that he had to pass through so many hands before finding his forever home. 

I love Charlie, but more importantly I'm so glad that you love Charlie. It just makes me so sad thinking of all that rejection. How sad is a dog who so wants love and just gets shoved aside. They just love us. They evolved to love us. I just can't imagine looking at that little face and not wanting him. I can't tell you how many dog people are shocked when I tell them that Willow and Maggie are rescues. How could anyone not just love those sweet faces? But Charlie is so lucky to have you now. Give him a big hug for me!

Hugs given and faces licked. :-)

Well, that was just one of those glitches in the universe, that it took so many wrong turns before Charlie got to where he was meant to be. 

Yes, with a bit of help from the DRC. 

Young kids and puppies are a bad mix.  Our daughter is dog savvy since she grew up with Luna around...but she really didn't like Riley as a young pup and wanted nothing to do with her.  They are bonding now that Riley is starting to settle down but our daughter is 6 so she is able to understand when Riley is over excited and DD shouldn't play with her.  Younger kids and babies have no concept of that.

My son is 7 months old and started crawling (and he's teething and trying to pull up to stand, send caffeine lol) and I do NOT let him approach or touch Riley.  If she approaches him I go sit right beside and let her have a sniff but he is never allowed to be the initiator.  He is just too young to know how to be gentle with her and one playful nip from Riley could be a big scar for him.

Plenty of people think "oh the baby and puppy will be best friends"...yes, they clearly do love each other but it takes a lot of work and very close supervision just to keep them both happy and safe.  Maybe another year or so and baby will be allowed to pet Riley but always closely supervised.  They probably won't be allowed to play for another few years..our daughter is 6 and she can really only play fetch with Riley with help from an adult.

I would NEVER recommend anyone get a puppy when they have young kids unless they have raised at least one puppy before...and they are getting the puppy for them, not the kids.  Riley is me and DH's dog, not really our kids' dog.


What about the meaning of 'champion lines' for the parent breeds.  Everyone says it. But what does a true champion lines pedigree look like and what does it matter?

The only kind of "champion" lines you could have in a doodle's pedigree would be the lines from the purebred dogs involved; the Poodles or the Retrievers. There are very, very few breeders of champion Poodles, Labs or Goldens who would sell a dog or semen to someone who is going to breed mixes. However, I have seen a couple of really nice Poodles in the lines of a very few doodle breeders. Explaining how this happens is complicated, but suffice it to say that the producers of the champions are never pleased about it. 

More often, I have seen a kennel name that was known for producing champions 40 years ago in a doodle's pedigree. In these cases, the particular dogs involved in the doodle's pedigree are not champions or even close to it. Often, their individual lines were cut from the breeding program because of genetic defects/disease. But technically, they are from a kennel that did produce champions, and might have had a common ancestor who was a champion, so you could say that they are from "champion lines". 
And of course, these doodle breeders also don;t specify "AKC Champion": There are all kinds of bogus registries that will sell you a "champion" title. Means absolutely nothing.  

Kind of like saying "I had an award winning violinist as my great great grandfather so all my kids should be amazing violinists naturally."

Is there a rule of thumb for the statement "champion lines"?  i.e. each parent should be a champion at least?  Or no farther back than grandparents?  I know it's not a real "term" but wondering what kind of guidance I can give that is accurate.

The best guidance you could give would be that in a doodle's pedigree, "champion lines" means nothing. It should not influence a buyer in any way. 

In the violinist example, it would be more like saying, "My great great great grandfather's second cousin was an award winning violinist", lol. 

Clearly, but I would still like to give a guideline that would make it self-evident upon pedigree inspection.



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