Switching Large Breed Puppy Food


Long time reader, first time poster. I'd like to switch our 5-month-old standard Bernedoodle puppy off of the Royal Canin large breed puppy food that the breeder fed her. She's been with us almost four weeks, and she is actualy doing really well on it, no issues, but the ingredient list gives me pause--and I notice that it's not included in the recommended brands here. Would Fromm's Large Breed Puppy Gold be a good substitute? We also have an 8-year-old Australian Labradoodle, who is currently eating Canidae All Life Stages Chicken Meal and Rice. I am also thinking of switching her to a formula that is not chicken-based, because she has been licking her paws a lot and scratching around her ears frequently. Wondering if it could be a chicken sensitivity. It would be easiest down the road if they could both be on the same formula, so I could put both on Fromm. That, of course, is secondary to getting each on the right food. Thanks in advance!

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  • Fromm is a great brand, and the Puppy Gold formula would be a much better choice for your puppy than Royal Canin. 
    Although you hear a lot about chicken sensitvities and allergies, the fact is that they are relatively rare: about 1% of all dogs have an allergy to any kind of food. Chances are that your ALD's symptoms are due to seasonal allergies, not chicken. At this point, I would stay with what she's currently eating until the puppy is ready to start an adult formulas, which is only a few months off. At that point, you could switch both dogs to one of the Fromm Four Star formulas that doesn;t contain chicken, there are dozens of different protein sources to choose from. If you want to switch the ALD now, I'd suggest Fromm's Four Star Salmon a la Veg; then you can switch the puppy to that same food in a few months. 

    • Thank you! Yes, I think that makes a lot of sense. I would much prefer to switch both to one adult formula at the same time. I'll try slowly switching to the Fromm Puppy food. I was shocked to see the ingredients in the Royal Canin, but wanted her to get settled before switching her to something different. And thank you for suggesting a particular Fromm formula--there are so many from which to choose! 

      • I would not make the transition too slow. 5-7 days at most is usually the best bet. 

        • Okay! Would 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 substitution two days each be the right pace?

          • Yes, exactly, but it's a little more complicated than that, because chances are the two foods do not have the same amount of calories per cup, so you cannot substitute an equal amount of one for the other. So you'll need to do some calculating.

            • Okay, thank you!


            • I mean.. I've never actually calculated it super carefully during the transition, if the new food has less calories I gave them a touch more than the original amount and if the new food has more calories I give them a little less.   Definitely some calculation of the final amount for new food though.

              Which reminds me .. Toby is due for a weighing and food re-calculation :p  Little furry weed grows so fast.

              • The difference is 32 calories/cup--the Fromm is 384/cup and the RC is 352/cup. Bailey gets a little under 4 cups/day, so that does add up calorie-wise. Her weight is perfect right now, so I do want to be careful not to add too much of the Fromm with the higher calorie content. According to the Fromm instructions, she should ultimately get b/t 3 1/3 and 3 2/3 cups per day (her estimated full weight is approx. 63 pounds).


                • That calorie content is close enough that you don't have to worry about it too much. There's only 8 calories more in a quarter cup of the Fromm food than in the RC food. 

                  • That's great to know! Thanks for all the info and help!

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